ASSOCIATES (vol. 2, no. 2, November 1995) - associates.ucr.edu

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       AN INTERVIEW WITH GENE KINNALY, LIBRARY OF CONGRESS

                          Conducted by

                           Kent Slade
                  Weber County Library System
                           Ogden, Utah
                       kslade@cc.weber.edu

Question: Tell us a little about yourself.  You work at Library
          of Congress, right?  What do you do there, what made
          you choose to work there, and what is it like?

Answer:   I started my library career on April 1, 1974.  I
          wondered at the time if starting a job on April Fool's
          Day was an omen of things to come.   Fortunately,
          things have worked out pretty good.

          My first job was as a mail clerk in the mail room of
          the Copyright Office.  The best thing about it was
          that we got to see the Copyright deposits.  In
          particular, I remember getting into a "muppet war" with
          a coworker, playing with muppet hand puppets (I was
          Cookie Monster).  I still have the letter from the
          Library of Congress (LC), notifying me that I had been
          hired.  At the time, I was a GS-3, earning a princely
          $6,408 per year!  Good thing I was living with my folks
          at the time!  I earn considerably more these days, but
          I can't honestly say that I *have* more money -- I
          think I had more back then.

          I also worked as a desk attendant in the Law Library
          for about a year and a half -- my only venture (thus
          far) into public services.  I was responsible for
          retrieving books from the Hispanic Law Library for the
          staff in the division, as well as readers in our
          reading room.  Other duties included reshelving books,
          shelf-reading, loose-leaf service, labeling and
          book-plating books, and searching card catalogs.  I had
          about 200,000 volumes to care for (and this was the
          *smallest* division in the law library).

          Then, in 1977, I started work in the Shelflisting
          Section, and I've been involved in shelflisting and
          cataloging ever since.  Now, I'm a Senior Technical
          Advisor.  I am still involved in shelflisting but my
          job has expanded a *lot* in the last three to four
          years.  I do a lot of training, both one-on-one and
          formal classroom training.  I developed and still teach
          two shelflisting classes, and I'm the only
          paraprofessional teaching a computer skills class.  I
          have been involved in writing several technical manuals
          for internal use, and my name appears with several of
          my coworkers in the preface to _Subject Cataloging
          Manual:  Shelflisting_, second edition.  I have been
          trained in CIP Verification and, at this point, I
          process all CIP Verification received on my team (with
          help, as needed, from a senior cataloger).  Soon, I
          hope to get involved in LC's copy cataloging project.

          I totally enjoy my job.  I work for a great boss and
          with a great group of people.  And LC has been, for me,
          a really neat place to work.  It's a little like
          working at the United Nations since so many nations and
          cultures are represented by the LC workforce.  Our
          numbers have dwindled the last few years, but, as a
          whole, the staff here is really wonderful.

Question: I have never heard of the term "shelflisting" before.
          What is it?

Answer:   Shelflisting is, in part, the process by which the LC
          classification number assigned to a book is extended to
          the point where a unique call number is formulated.  In
          most libraries, one person is responsible for the
          entire cataloging process for a book, including the
          assignment of the call number.  At LC, because of the
          size of the collection and the number of items received
          and retained for the collection each day, the
          cataloging process was split into three parts: the
          descriptive cataloging, the subject cataloging, and the
          shelflisting.

          It was the shelflister who was responsible for
          determining the correct filing position in our 3 x 5
          card shelflist, determining the appropriate call number
          which supported that filing position, filing the card,
          updating the record with the call number, writing the
          call number in the book, and forwarding the book either
          to the Decimal Classification Division or to Binding.

          Other duties included adding copies of books to the
          collection (writing call numbers in the books and
          updating the holdings information in the shelflist),
          filing printed catalog cards into the shelflist,
          resolving discrepancy reports (incorrect call numbers
          in the shelflist, in the books, or in the catalog
          record), and processing books being discarded from the
          collections.  Today many of these duties, and a few
          more new duties, are performed by LC cataloging
          technicians.

Question: Have you worked at other libraries?  What other types
          of jobs have you had?

          I have never worked in another library.  However, my
          "grand plan" is to retire in about thirteen years (God
          and Congress willing) and seek a position in an
          academic library.  I think by that time I will have
          quite a bit to offer a college or university library.
          Also, I would hopefully be able to take some classes.

          In terms of other jobs, most of my experience has been
          with summer jobs during high school and college.  I
          have been a playground leader, a short-order cook, a
          restaurant maitre d', and I spent one particularly
          memorable summer working for the Sewer Department in
          Brockton, Massachusetts.

          I was also in the Army Reserves for six years, trained
          as an Army cook (my wife doesn't let me cook much at
          home -- maybe there's a connection?).

Question: Tell me more about working for the Sewer Department.
          That sounds, ummm, intriguing!

Answer:   Are you sure you want to know?  Two things about that
          summer:  I learned how to drive stick shift, and out in
          the back of the plant were some of the most delicious
          tomatoes I ever had -- all I had to do was forget where
          they came from!

          I guess I really lucked out in getting a job at LC, and
          being able to advance over the years to reach my
          current position.  Now, I can't imagine *not* working
          in a library.  That's why I intend to continue my
          involvement with libraries after I retire from LC.

Question: Are you a member of any state, regional, or national
          associations, or involved in any group or association?

Answer:   By January, I will be a member of the Virginia Library
          Association (VLA), the Southeastern Library
          Association, and the Council on Library/Media
          Technicians, Inc. (COLT).  I say January because these
          organization run on a January-to-December cycle.  I am
          already very involved with the Paraprofessional Forum
          of VLA -- I am serving on the Board -- and I'm
          preparing a presentation for VLAPF's May 1996
          Conference.

Question: What do you think the future of libraries holds in
          store?  What do you think about the future of support
          staff versus librarians?

Answer:   With the information explosion that has been happening
          and that will continue to happen, libraries are faced
          with many opportunities and many dangers.  Library
          staff -- professional and paraprofessional -- must keep
          up with changing technologies.  We have traditionally
          been the people who know best how to find information.
          To survive and flourish in today's world and
          tomorrow's, we must be able to find information using
          new tools, and we must be leaders in the search for
          ways in which better access to information is provided
          for all.  In this high-tech, cyberspace world of ours,
          we still want people to "Ask a librarian" when seeking
          information, whether that "librarian" is truly a
          librarian or not, or whether that "librarian" is in
          person or online.

          We are the organizers and providers of information,
          from print to microforms to audio/visual to computer
          disks and CD-ROMS.  We are the logical ones to organize
          and provide information in an online environment.  Our
          challenge is to be the best-prepared profession to take
          on this task.

Question: Any comments you want to add?

Answer:   I think it's very, *very* important for library support
          staff to GET INVOLVED!  I spent twenty years of my
          library career involved only in my job, my day-to-day
          responsibilities.  Then, I attended the annual COLT
          Conference in Miami and heard Tinker Massey speak.  She
          said a lot of things during the Conference but the real
          value of her presence there was, for me, her ability to
          make me think.

          It took awhile, but I'm off the sidelines now, and
          *definitely* in the game.  I'm participating as fully
          as I can in LIBSUP and AUTOCAT, two great listservs.  I
          have written an article for _Library Mosaics_, two for
          _Associates_, and I'm preparing one now for the
          _Southeastern Librarian_.  I have attended COLT
          Conferences and I will attend again -- a great
          organization with many very nice and talented folks.  I
          have attended the VLA Paraprofessional Forum, and I
          will again -- if you *ever* have the chance, this is a
          great Conference to attend.  I'm involved with one
          library organization (VLA) and will probably be
          involved in at least one other.  I am giving a
          presentation at a Conference, and something tells me it
          won't be my last.  I *am* involved, and I can tell you,
          it feels great!
       AN INTERVIEW WITH GENE KINNALY, LIBRARY OF CONGRESS

                          Conducted by

                           Kent Slade
                  Weber County Library System
                           Ogden, Utah
                       kslade@cc.weber.edu

Question: Tell us a little about yourself.  You work at Library
          of Congress, right?  What do you do there, what made
          you choose to work there, and what is it like?

Answer:   I started my library career on April 1, 1974.  I
          wondered at the time if starting a job on April Fool's
          Day was an omen of things to come.   Fortunately,
          things have worked out pretty good.

          My first job was as a mail clerk in the mail room of
          the Copyright Office.  The best thing about it was
          that we got to see the Copyright deposits.  In
          particular, I remember getting into a "muppet war" with
          a coworker, playing with muppet hand puppets (I was
          Cookie Monster).  I still have the letter from the
          Library of Congress (LC), notifying me that I had been
          hired.  At the time, I was a GS-3, earning a princely
          $6,408 per year!  Good thing I was living with my folks
          at the time!  I earn considerably more these days, but
          I can't honestly say that I *have* more money -- I
          think I had more back then.

          I also worked as a desk attendant in the Law Library
          for about a year and a half -- my only venture (thus
          far) into public services.  I was responsible for
          retrieving books from the Hispanic Law Library for the
          staff in the division, as well as readers in our
          reading room.  Other duties included reshelving books,
          shelf-reading, loose-leaf service, labeling and
          book-plating books, and searching card catalogs.  I had
          about 200,000 volumes to care for (and this was the
          *smallest* division in the law library).

          Then, in 1977, I started work in the Shelflisting
          Section, and I've been involved in shelflisting and
          cataloging ever since.  Now, I'm a Senior Technical
          Advisor.  I am still involved in shelflisting but my
          job has expanded a *lot* in the last three to four
          years.  I do a lot of training, both one-on-one and
          formal classroom training.  I developed and still teach
          two shelflisting classes, and I'm the only
          paraprofessional teaching a computer skills class.  I
          have been involved in writing several technical manuals
          for internal use, and my name appears with several of
          my coworkers in the preface to _Subject Cataloging
          Manual:  Shelflisting_, second edition.  I have been
          trained in CIP Verification and, at this point, I
          process all CIP Verification received on my team (with
          help, as needed, from a senior cataloger).  Soon, I
          hope to get involved in LC's copy cataloging project.

          I totally enjoy my job.  I work for a great boss and
          with a great group of people.  And LC has been, for me,
          a really neat place to work.  It's a little like
          working at the United Nations since so many nations and
          cultures are represented by the LC workforce.  Our
          numbers have dwindled the last few years, but, as a
          whole, the staff here is really wonderful.

Question: I have never heard of the term "shelflisting" before.
          What is it?

Answer:   Shelflisting is, in part, the process by which the LC
          classification number assigned to a book is extended to
          the point where a unique call number is formulated.  In
          most libraries, one person is responsible for the
          entire cataloging process for a book, including the
          assignment of the call number.  At LC, because of the
          size of the collection and the number of items received
          and retained for the collection each day, the
          cataloging process was split into three parts: the
          descriptive cataloging, the subject cataloging, and the
          shelflisting.

          It was the shelflister who was responsible for
          determining the correct filing position in our 3 x 5
          card shelflist, determining the appropriate call number
          which supported that filing position, filing the card,
          updating the record with the call number, writing the
          call number in the book, and forwarding the book either
          to the Decimal Classification Division or to Binding.

          Other duties included adding copies of books to the
          collection (writing call numbers in the books and
          updating the holdings information in the shelflist),
          filing printed catalog cards into the shelflist,
          resolving discrepancy reports (incorrect call numbers
          in the shelflist, in the books, or in the catalog
          record), and processing books being discarded from the
          collections.  Today many of these duties, and a few
          more new duties, are performed by LC cataloging
          technicians.

Question: Have you worked at other libraries?  What other types
          of jobs have you had?

          I have never worked in another library.  However, my
          "grand plan" is to retire in about thirteen years (God
          and Congress willing) and seek a position in an
          academic library.  I think by that time I will have
          quite a bit to offer a college or university library.
          Also, I would hopefully be able to take some classes.

          In terms of other jobs, most of my experience has been
          with summer jobs during high school and college.  I
          have been a playground leader, a short-order cook, a
          restaurant maitre d', and I spent one particularly
          memorable summer working for the Sewer Department in
          Brockton, Massachusetts.

          I was also in the Army Reserves for six years, trained
          as an Army cook (my wife doesn't let me cook much at
          home -- maybe there's a connection?).

Question: Tell me more about working for the Sewer Department.
          That sounds, ummm, intriguing!

Answer:   Are you sure you want to know?  Two things about that
          summer:  I learned how to drive stick shift, and out in
          the back of the plant were some of the most delicious
          tomatoes I ever had -- all I had to do was forget where
          they came from!

          I guess I really lucked out in getting a job at LC, and
          being able to advance over the years to reach my
          current position.  Now, I can't imagine *not* working
          in a library.  That's why I intend to continue my
          involvement with libraries after I retire from LC.

Question: Are you a member of any state, regional, or national
          associations, or involved in any group or association?

Answer:   By January, I will be a member of the Virginia Library
          Association (VLA), the Southeastern Library
          Association, and the Council on Library/Media
          Technicians, Inc. (COLT).  I say January because these
          organization run on a January-to-December cycle.  I am
          already very involved with the Paraprofessional Forum
          of VLA -- I am serving on the Board -- and I'm
          preparing a presentation for VLAPF's May 1996
          Conference.

Question: What do you think the future of libraries holds in
          store?  What do you think about the future of support
          staff versus librarians?

Answer:   With the information explosion that has been happening
          and that will continue to happen, libraries are faced
          with many opportunities and many dangers.  Library
          staff -- professional and paraprofessional -- must keep
          up with changing technologies.  We have traditionally
          been the people who know best how to find information.
          To survive and flourish in today's world and
          tomorrow's, we must be able to find information using
          new tools, and we must be leaders in the search for
          ways in which better access to information is provided
          for all.  In this high-tech, cyberspace world of ours,
          we still want people to "Ask a librarian" when seeking
          information, whether that "librarian" is truly a
          librarian or not, or whether that "librarian" is in
          person or online.

          We are the organizers and providers of information,
          from print to microforms to audio/visual to computer
          disks and CD-ROMS.  We are the logical ones to organize
          and provide information in an online environment.  Our
          challenge is to be the best-prepared profession to take
          on this task.

Question: Any comments you want to add?

Answer:   I think it's very, *very* important for library support
          staff to GET INVOLVED!  I spent twenty years of my
          library career involved only in my job, my day-to-day
          responsibilities.  Then, I attended the annual COLT
          Conference in Miami and heard Tinker Massey speak.  She
          said a lot of things during the Conference but the real
          value of her presence there was, for me, her ability to
          make me think.

          It took awhile, but I'm off the sidelines now, and
          *definitely* in the game.  I'm participating as fully
          as I can in LIBSUP and AUTOCAT, two great listservs.  I
          have written an article for _Library Mosaics_, two for
          _Associates_, and I'm preparing one now for the
          _Southeastern Librarian_.  I have attended COLT
          Conferences and I will attend again -- a great
          organization with many very nice and talented folks.  I
          have attended the VLA Paraprofessional Forum, and I
          will again -- if you *ever* have the chance, this is a
          great Conference to attend.  I'm involved with one
          library organization (VLA) and will probably be
          involved in at least one other.  I am giving a
          presentation at a Conference, and something tells me it
          won't be my last.  I *am* involved, and I can tell you,
          it feels great!